DAOFest – Suji Yan, Maskbook, Dimension.im, Anti-996 License

so pleasure to be the first one to speak because obviously everyone's neck still sleeping and what was what I was invited for at all fast I was figuring out okay what is to seeing the thing we're building to do with the doubt and so I had a lot of things and I haven't speak at other places before so first let me introduce what I'm doing and what is mass blue and what I have done before so max book is a mask over you know who mostly Facebook and you can enjoy this interest web app on Facebook right now without in a way for the web stew three point now and the Department of today's Internet as we we know for many many years that you know the general happily aware of the problem Facebook the data leakage the cambrian deck habit there's no nowhere else to to migrate they heard upwards from like the new people's web the new decentralized web even from - be a comedy show and that new internet but the same the barrier to entered that the new word is super high and from 2017 to now I don't think the barrier is slower still a very high barrier the program of migration is always the same take to example the first one is telegram you can you can take of friends and the data on existing platform like Facebook and Twitter we see you on that one even though it has more security and privacy compared to face with and Twitter [Music] okay just ignore him yeah and the truly secure service like the onion Network and the dark web is either to key key or is condemned by mainstream media usually people condemn these services are used by terrorists or you know child porn staff none of these none of the technologies really key key service surprise to Europe surprise to da you of 1 million user so the real problem is can we have the efficiency with privacy control and data ownership and why do we need to migrate I mean why you just can't we stay in Facebook and Twitter and WeChat and whatever happened you want to use just stay there and protect yourself and you know Oriol data and enjoy the new web is that possible if it's harder how can we do that so that's why we start to build math work it's a very simple solution coming to my mind back in 2017 and but we realized seeing into the knighting that you can post on facebook without the platform able to view it or read it and we use the decentralized ID and compatible we saw a ball chain maille ad cerium there's no centralized server which means we were under knew no jurisdiction but we wear differently which means you can build mini apps or staff on top of us also on top of Facebook and the very cool reason we do that is we want to build or the intent Giants today like Facebook Twitter which at Assen infrastructure this being with this being say in many years and this we see in many other companies but I think now of them really achieve that so how do you achieve that here's a small example of mass book Facebook that you you we have a broad extension mobile app that allow people to post comment or post tweet or program on Facebook on SMS with all that problem no it that's nice if we know super easy to do you understand usage for Deb calm and you posted gibberish then it turns turns into some message on Facebook and only a friend who is the proper key can see that let's say this guy have this keep every day then I choose this guy as a recipient and just refresh you see that and you can chat over facebook without let people know what you're doing so basically you're building your that web on top of the container but that's that's not enough I mean people don't really care about privacy but people don't don't really use the packing or really use another software for that purpose even though that's really cool and the migration it causes you know pretty less than compared to telegram or signal so next thing gonna do is not only post encrypted message what if we can post US dollar money on Twitter and let people in like Middle East in China declare the US dollar stable coin on Twitter that's not a cheapo in in the past 20 years that if I send the red packet on which had FS on many on which had in our be that's only you know Chinese II think an indicator if I send you know people link on eBay the only u.s. percent indicated that US dollar what if we can do that Twitter so here is one you install math work and when when you declare a red pocket on Twitter is take like five second depends on the networking condition of each serum and you say thank you to the guy who sent you a packet so basically we can avoid you know to be honest or sanction list that people can use stable point Twitter and they can use serum on Twitter without let them know without using any PR to their office because it's all open web and that reminds me of the early days of browser of the internet I was a generalist before I found my own company so I do have to interview with those OGS of Internet so that during 90s the situation is pretty pretty much alike right now so Microsoft is the monopoly that day the Windows is the Evo software and did Linux win the software world when the operating system war against Microsoft Windows I don't think so I think the desk navigator actually bring a new opportunity to this just work that you actually create a layer on top of Windows you use Windows API you build a software for Windows that is broader and soon a browser you enter a new word cut internet or twelve what about web and then you can build something on top of the web which means you can build an operating system within the browser turns tends to broader into an OS so the operating system itself is no longer an Evo monopoly again so that's why I think after ten years people we don't contain Microsoft as an Evo monopoly again because they don't really important anymore even though everyone still used software the same thing happened for between AT&T or any major telecom company and whatsapp so what's happened or which had or any you know I am they are not really decent right but they use your cell phone number as you identifier that's some kind of idea even though it's not the centroids some kind of centralized ID system that AT&T and and you know state governments of different countries you know have many effort and put that in use it for like decades and what was happened you know Messenger is doing is just try to use that identifier to to squeeze out the network that after AT&T SMS or any major telecom communities as a nurse then make it less centralized make it make it compatible with word problems you can write programs what's happen right about you can send image you can send audio which means there's more space for developers it's more freedom so that's the how they squeeze the value from from the AT&T into it what's happened so guest the same thing will happen in our generation in this decade nest we don't really want to build another face with Twitter anything I've seen many experiments on that you know voice come from us or citta so I'm even though they're really cool I do appreciate the after and everybody how they use them I mean a lot but I don't think they can achieve the mass adoption it's not really because they have it's not not really because they don't have money or don't have men power or something it's just because the chilli tip for chatting utility for socially already been occupied by some monopolies for like ten years it's like Windows you can just you know build another OS and take it down so the best way to do it is to learn from history we add a layer on top of Facebook and Twitter and layer is more decentralized compared to the current internet and obviously Facebook and Twitter have no way to shut us down because we don't use an API we are you know a purely centrist there's no server to cut us down so we can also I mean as I as a demo before we can support a stable coin transaction red packet and you know we can even transfer an auction crypto Kitty on Twitter and you know even even migrate your Twitter contents to Facebook that's not doable so eventually it's a layer on top of every social network and and force them become a titty company like Microsoft Windows like AT&T like or the ODB monopoly now we'll take the years and that's not be that would be not achievable without the help of the you know people like people in this information and people use doing defy people doing you know the FT but I will just just want to point out the the important direction that I mean I think a lot of people actually missed so why this approach Isis a it is the most efficient way after we launched in DRI the force last year and it's a good timing we got an Saudis abuser it's not really a big number but I mean compared to any defy any that's that's a good number and go much more faster than any related privacy really products because you can use the network fed of Twitter and Facebook you can actually spend on Facebook or Twitter and without the without being noticed or without being have a have a let them have a chance to pay you and you can prove we can create the most programmable and open data ecosystem because everything you post on Facebook and Twitter from one man doing storm as we will be encrypted and then it will generate largest amount of encrypted data or digital asset from the general public then what is the relationship between the sink we're building four years and a two years from now and ECM and down I guess we have to figure out okay what is it out first or what is the same we're against what they see we want to endorse as you may heard from like books from like radical market or other economies people people use the word data labor or digital labor to refer the current situation that we we spend our time on Facebook and let them steal our data so if data is somehow equivalent you know as early as labor surely there will be a data union or data table homebrew by our approach so wait now what do we know about the traditional labor union and the digital labor so why this thing like a simple plugin or software can be a labor union the first this is thing that really related about that traditionally we ask me now like Andrew Carnegie's Factory and his workers in 200 years ago is you know this is simplified chart about how this thing work you see the workers on the top left side and you see the factory of Andrew Carnegie we switch back off CMU but you know it's a really bad Factory in Pittsburgh and on the top right side you see the money that created by the state government on top and you see the free market of the goose of the committee's and you see the government and banks in the middle nothing will be lasting it's stable for the same being exists for X 3 400 years and not until in not until 100 years ago they have a huge problem with people like Karl Marx and you know the left-wing economists and left-wing movement labor union movement then they have like provenance and like a revolution inside then they changed so what good is happening right now for the data labor is exactly the same thing the user become the labor and data database somewhere in the Iceland somewhere in some like offshore company offshore island become the factory and this mobile phone and a laptop become the way to produce that you know data still the money it's the same thing still the US dollars through the field money so I guess if I am satoshi back in 2007-2008 I look at this chart I will figure out ok we can do something about the money part right we can we can we have replaced that thing we step Bitcoin and for for the money policy we can do is do the defy stuff we can create our own stable coin for money policy and for you know for a device producing data I can we can use the secure front like HTC Exodus or some you know from with the encryption software and for storage probably used ipfs or solid by Tim berners-lee seems like this solved problem that by creating a new digital currency back in 2008 by Satoshi right as a year of the financial crisis in 80 in there right that we may be kind of evolved money policy like defy and we involve up the free market for data we've got the better tools for for the labors for the workers for the user who seems like the problem is solved but what was happening right right now is okay see you can do the family I know you can do the Bitcoin but you know Facebook can do the Libre and anyone can do their own blockchain cuz all chain chain or a private broad chain and digital data is an SI storing a diverse and Google Cloud and free market update is actually controlled by Google Ads and you know Facebook ads and money policy is now kind of infected by people this master the embraced now the embrace digital revolution the embraced things like implant they also embracing is like watch him but in a different manner so seems like how revolution is not really working well I mean in my opinion that's what Satoshi want to prevent not that vsv right and the best thing is when we when we take the nationalism inside that we can we can put a flag there you know like Chinese flag or us like there will be a huge mass that you know they don't they won't be open people appear when the government will put different people in different lists to someone in the section list to prevent them from using some tools and for now they can't do it unblock him but I mean they will do it for Swift for bank system so I guess seems like this this dissolute this direction is pretty bad right now and how can we fix it you start all this math Lucy cerium with the same we build before I guess I would like to introduce another thing I did in the past this is the thing I did in 2019 99 f6 the 96 ICU is a movement in China digital labor movement from the programmers community that people condemned the mainstream like a large Internet Corporation for working from 9 a.m. to 9 p.

m. six day a week so they really don't happy about that so they want to draft a license called nt9 a fixed license and if I wrote the open source software I put license on that so if you system if the company uses that software and they don't obey the labor law the copywriter actually can sue the company so the traditional labor situation between employee you know engineers and IT companies on left sound less than only the employee the employee Abid companies but now with the help of the license who get the copyright owner we got you know the labor at the midstream Department and Copyright Office and that week that that can be multinational which means labor in u.s. can be sued by a European Union you know software engineer cuz hero the open source software we seize their license but seems like that's not doable because it still rely on the legal system in today the super you know fragile and super volatile due to the you know international relationship so what if what if we actually did the data union like data you labor union or Dow so in my opinion I think the bow is very similar to Union because obviously it doesn't really make any money and you take money and they take money and fight for something that we all know is ROM like data problem or labor labor you know working hours profit so I guess what one front trying to do not only with mass book but also with a serial with all people in the web three stable coin is we try to create a layer on top of the Facebook on top of Twitter like create a layer on top up to web to maybe call web 3 but it can be other names and that layer will be like Tao and and anything you post throw that out to Facebook and Twitter will be encrypted and the red pocket you post on Twitter face where it's not view by view or by Twitter and Facebook so all things is using their infrastructure but unfortunately don't give them access so it's like protesting inside the factory of you know mr. Andrew Carnegie back in two years ago and in order to form a proper you know organized way to doing the doing the protesting we need to have some like foundation need to have like in a way full fundraising but I would like to compare it out to Union I guess I know for me a digit hotel for you know Digital labor is the same thing as labor union back in at the time of Andrew Carnegie and JP Morgan so the users now they're turning 10 into labors so guess we needed out we need a labor union for all the dues Labor's and I guess we can refer platform like signal like status time as cooperative and we Furr approach like ass as a labor union I guess we need to help each other and and use the ecosystem we have used the interest we have to really do a revolution inside Facebook inside Twitter with a letter let them Venice or without let them have a chance to Paris or it's not possible to be honest yeah that's my speech and if you are on telegram scan the qr-code enjoying our search master group to join our Cali bamboo and you just go to mass become a laptop as there's a extension really to use for your Chrome and Firefox browser [Music]