Cross Collaboration Panel - D1T10 - ETHBerlinZwei @ DappCon

the first topic here let's go back to I guess the first prominent work and talk about how we might be operating and collaborating in the future consider your classic there's a few different folks up here that can speak to each one acts development theory in classic that's moving anyway touch base along the way Anthony do you be able to speak a bit to being worked on these your classic side to Matt is Dan's iam in terms of codes and just in general I think the ways that we've been able to work together previously are just the major difference between EG c and e th is largely political and i personally would argue that watching themselves are a part of a political movement that attack movement so when it comes to the tech though a lot of it's very similar so we've for example you know how to fund quarterly and the Kylie Network out of that and you know the reason that the fearing clients now all talk to each other on test noted because it's et Cie pitched in and helped out with that and I think there's a lot of other things that going forward we'll be able to collaborate to because there's a ton of little small pain points when it comes to cross collaboration that are just pull requests of 50 to 100 lines of code and yeah I think there's there's quite a bit in the pipeline but I'm just I'm the former director of agency cooperation so I'm a little less up-to-date on the coming man this was helpful there as well yeah [Music] but these two worlds are where you know upgrades all upgrades are gone or where today what if we just we have the current going all the balances remain on the bull chain and then the new feature center [Applause] [Music] I'm going over this way but you guys are working on bridging the g20 side could you speak a little bit too [Music] introduction to cross collaborative efforts yeah so I don't really find particularly interesting you see 20 watts all right looks like very very poor thing as I think it is good perspective the point the thing is on YouTube watching it right disinteresting right and when we just use when we introduce the concept of sense of what chain that poisons the idea right where it is because each other do not try to avoid centralization you're putting it on much greater level and they don't think it's good idea from my perspective it could be really great if the change could collaborate on it isn't revised way back except when I mean they all cooperate this this should not be changed talking to change yeah I but at the same time I don't see like signal watching as a centralized entity I see that individuals say this is my Wilson and I said I won't interact with anybody else who's following a single step so in that same way that's how we got these pieces play as we had a slightly different rule set so I don't really see the watching itself if it's one uniform entity as a centralized thing actually crocheting communication is great and I hope we advanced they're much more technologically but I don't really see any individual watching as centralized just by the fact that everybody running the same set so cross collaboration interchange communication with a hard-on okay going to both ends here I want to China Craig Dan Humphrey on this because you guys are working in need to client polka dot convey through offering extended review work imperative you spend time with your community you have vision with your take on this I mean from Madison Daisy future models essentially [Music] but I mean please they're also cross collaboration communication things I want to like cross communication is like super cool I mean it's like you know like cross collaboration that's realistic it's cool because now we actually communication yeah I mean something you gotta come into that vanilla want to go to cross collaboration question I have to do [Music] so speak to that specific piece whether we're talking about I see your research or you want a lot of times we see very talented groups doing their own work through their own research not communicating it may be based on old lines old rivalries and theories going down the line we'll start offering what do you think the ecosystems would most benefit if they were to speak to communicating more effectively collaborate more effectively between teams so that we're not duplicating our efforts [Music] and everything we can run this energy so that's why we need better population - meaning that the protocols we need more understanding we can teach systems talk to each other and that's why it's important to cover it because otherwise we won't achieve is where users are involved when it comes to to reduce experience you know let Peter be is cool at all but this movie like yeah nice it kind of caught me to be to be staff but I think what we're we're cooperation and standard buddy to most users I can interact with it I think we wanna make use those pieces possible if they don't want they shouldn't have to switch walnuts or everything that they're doing they want to be able to have in common addresses across me I can change they want to be able to use the same one different shapes they want to be able to use the same wallet that interact with different types of second their networks and so really I think that's where we need to do a lot of this work I think like one of the and talking about you know one of the issues I see in if you're new acts for example is all these second there's nobody pockets are coming along there's not enough people per size like in for taking so long to like be shipped but one of the things that they've done really well is they got an every all they have a multiple client engagement at least three or four five implementation and they all they standardized their vaults and make sure that almost everything meanwhile yeah next channel created four channels like Wallace how do they choose which ones to degrade when it comes to these really different applications with the different interfaces I mean the interface will be the same just in standard G receive or JSOC connect and that's more products and systems to be able to work and these systems need to cooperate yes so I think sunny actually had some great points there the different approaches for foresight change to different networks and I think that comes to basically two things one collaboration is really hard I think part of Sonny's point there was if you're a wallet and you need to implement different different different types of side chains and the UI has to be the same then it needs to be seamless for the users that is a substantial amount of overhead for you compared to if you just had one interface of program invest and then the other thing is what you go about collaborating you should because it requires so much effort at work it is very beneficial though you also need to be very selective in that you only there's a lot of collaborate in places where both parties or lovers collaborate with each other all benefit because if you end up collaborating and a policeman you're like this is great for collaborating in that case when those types of things happen you are gonna end up in a situation where you don't get like two expectancy guys because the other side now realizes like this is a very beneficial for us we're going to be prioritize that we would love to collaborate but we only have you know three developers working on this as it is so yeah when it comes to collaboration the best thing to do is kind of me trying you know Dani rodrik's around what it is you're collaborating on a bunch of society's plan I think lightning really did good there there are about three or four different client invitations and every while it's also saying that work so yeah I have to get sunny when it comes tabulated what we're trying to actually like where that communication I mean like this isn't standard make sure that it's like three common connections and like you just deal with and I mean like here's where I was I get back to what I was saying before like the reason why collaboration is so easy because that's what the communication is the pathnames so like like we're moving towards at this point I don't see like in three years two years like that's not the reality so we're gonna have to come to a reference and all this don't start a new items all this like this idea that you know we can do shared security is just like redundant there's no reason for it because if we can't have we're we didn't share food security I had like Pope that pasta three can basically just customized you reach me however you wanted to be writing you can have like any rules they want in there and that's fine that's and you have to worry about like having nodes running and people like ah because you're like on the pool they 1522 live I can't I have my two cosmos at the mutated against like a polka dot I don't see if the purpose of like a behavior right so we need to have that insane and that's what the difference in etudes like we're not going to have that like uniformity except like the execution side right and communication and we're not talking now with the developers and researchers I think we're usually start when it's great unless we back off so you face this again when developing test sets is you have different implementations that are unable to speak to each other and just working with the say creators of cove on with Peter this is I guess at least somewhat similar to it to be able to cross collaborated or to be able to cross communicate and if you have so many different uh 200 clients to be sharing information so you face some of this best practices working with the teams around you to making sure that we can get at the same point that the standardization becomes possible [Music] especially with solutions so what you actually need [Music] we're gonna laugh the getting introduced to talk to each other what would be the solution is it out of the you know what [Applause] [Music] right now is that my ability because we have many chains using our software but different change or using different versions of us so can you give an example say Tara that play brother [Music] and waiting for a moment and we will see some perks for our consensus we're not documented before we start so on monkeys to see that things but I think the reading will be so to the folks here we have people are working on at least five large platforms any questions specific to any of them or cross communication collaboration and we faced a lot of challenges with working amongst each other so this is afternoon Greg do you have any idea on the software or the architecture or envisioning in your head on what this application could eat two formulas across collaboration like you have a vision on what this could be and how we can get there let's just get take a couple people 320s one person a lot of stands entirely if they're stand there are implementations adopted and I think that probably leads to more competition than anything else even once some competition is only from coming to agreement on standards like you guys just have to be [Music] in the end project on science find some common ground or else the project based on purely speculative and so I think some of these projects realize that at the time that there is something you've got a question after audience questions it's a one more we do interactive relief with government chains and things like Libre as you see that playing role in this process [Music] and all for interoperability broad is beginning he bringing interesting concept and me the coin who's the monkey like that's her own sister Tony drop of leave oh that's like [Music] [Applause]