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HUMAN Protocol - Colaboración entre el hombre y la máquina

Ethereum Lima — 2021Ethereum LimaSat, Oct 9, 2021, 12:00 AM

En esta oportunidad conversamos con Fernando Quirós, Community Lead para LATAM y España, sobre Human Protocol y los nuevos proyectos que trae al ecosistema cripto.

Transcript

He stays there, and well, how are you? I hope you're all doing well in this cold weather in Lima, or wherever you are here in Peru or abroad. Today we have a special guest, Fernando Quiroz. He's the Community List Lit for Latin America at Human Product, with a very interesting project that he's going to tell us about today. Basically, I'll give you a little preview: it's about compensating not for the work one does online—not a conventional job, I understand—but for those everyday tasks that one always has to be doing, like CAPTCHAs.

I think it's related to that. It's important to mention that it doesn't currently offer any kind of reward. Or, for example, when you watch ads. There are surely many things that can be done. So that's what we're going to talk about today.

As you know, this presentation will be recorded, and you can review it later on Therion Lima's YouTube channel. So, without further ado, Fernando Trabe, welcome, and let's begin with the presentation. Well, thank you very much, Adolfo. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm in Argentina, so it's five o'clock here, I think it's three o'clock.

And well, really very Thank you for this space Adolfo has given me to explain what Human Protocol is. The first thing I need to clarify is that it's not a blockchain. Some people think we're talking about a blockchain, but it's not. We should say that it is, or aims to be, a new generation of artificial intelligence and machine learning technologies. I don't know if the presentation is clear; you can see it there.

Perfect, perfect. Well, my protocol is precisely that: a protocol. If it were translated as Human Protocol, it wouldn't be a blockchain. However, it has already been launched on the main Ethereal Entity. We, as the protocol's signature, say that we are blockchain agnostic, meaning we are not tied to any particular blockchain.

In fact, I'll tell you a little more later. We already have some agreements and integrations with different blockchains to work with. But basically, what is Human Protocol's focus? Human Protocol focuses on labor markets. The idea is to start taking advantage of the possibility that technology gives us to decentralize a lot of activities and use them for the labor market.

As we said, the protocol supports the creation of labor markets, seeking to make them secure and... Decentralized and on a large scale, the idea is that, for example, workers who may be scattered across different parts of the world can perform tasks required by specific companies or other workers. These tasks are published and divided; it's as if all the work is atomized. And often these are trivial or repetitive tasks, as Adolfo mentioned when we started, for example, with the topic of data labeling. In fact, one of the applications he works with is the H CAPTCHA protocol, or CAPTCHA itself.

Yes, this is the tool that allows us to prevent bots on the internet. And in the case of Ethics, we work precisely with 15 percent of internet traffic, which is quite a large number. So, the idea is that the work is atomized into small tasks. Anyone can request to perform the work as long as they have certain skills, knowledge, or experience to do it. The idea, as I was saying, is to distribute the workforce.

If we, for example, are looking for a labor market that is fairer, more transparent, and more secure—which is what many blockchain projects are looking for— what is needed is... It's precisely new infrastructure in Human Protocol that tries to maximize the availability of opportunities because this potential will reach a global level, and in this way, avoid obstacles. So we could say that Human Protocol is an infrastructure; in fact, it's more of a protocol that provides plugins, APIs, all the infrastructure that can be used to carry out the work. I was saying that we're not tied to any particular platform, but rather that in the multi-chain operation of Human Protocol, let's see how we can look at this. In fact, there have already been some integrations with Solana, with dumps, with changeling.

The idea is to always seek to guarantee security and robustness in the protocol and also in the job markets that will depend on the protocol. Also, very recently, a collaboration with RON was announced to allow millions of micropayments. You can also imagine that, for example, the possibility of atomizing work could also go hand in hand with the issue of micropayments so that workers can be paid what they are owed for doing the work. But to give you a better idea of ​​what the ecosystem is like, I don't know if you can see the graphic there, so you can see that Human is at the center, yes, of a bunch of... The idea is to allow interaction and the application of third-party exchanges from other blogs.

Also, the side exchange of development partners. So, I'll clarify again so there's no confusion, since I'm not asked about it much. The Human Protocol is an infrastructure that provides technology for certain operations, but it's not a blockchain. Right now, it's working on the main external network, but tomorrow it could also work on other blogs. In fact, for example, with the wallet that's being developed, there are possibilities for cross- chain bridges.

So, well, here we see that in the ecosystem, if we talk about the upcoming, well -known, stereo dumps, something real, yes, we're going to see that interactions with wallets are already a goal, in addition to the development of The Human's own wallet. And well, the potential and possibilities of working in the crypto and blogging field are very, very large. And I also want to clarify this: I was saying that data tagging is being worked on, but the idea isn't for The Human Protocol to only do that kind of work. In fact, the protocol could be used for many other types of work. The protocol acts somewhat as an intermediary.

Between those seeking work and those offering it, the idea is that tomorrow companies can use Human Protocol to offer jobs to workers. This will have a global impact and could even be automated. Tomorrow there could be jobs where robots directly assign tasks for people to complete. All of this is done through smart contracts that would execute payments once the work is done. The truth is, it could be used for a multitude of tasks.

Currently, work is beginning with data tagging to prevent bots on the internet. The potential is quite large, and if we look at how this works, the protocol allows for the creation and secure settlement of a data tagging market. This is all decentralized; applicants can post jobs, just like any public company. Specific data tagging jobs can be posted instantly, and workers will earn a small amount (in this case, all in HMT) for completing these jobs. For these jobs, it's not necessary for companies and workers to know each other personally, nor is there any specific type of relationship required.

Trust, if we think about it from a financial point of view, with Bitcoin we know that what the Bitcoin network did was eliminate the need to trust a third party. Here, we would look for something similar, but in terms of workforces. The protocol is designed to provide data scientists with specialized, high-quality information because the idea is to start helping with this, also with machine learning and artificial intelligence. I'm going to run through the diversity; I don't know if I'm going too fast, I'm speaking a bit quickly. Do I sound good to you?

It's a good speed for me, but perfect. Well, as I was saying, Human aims to improve collaboration between the work done by human beings, but also aiming at machine learning and machine understanding. The idea is that the labor markets that support this protocol have machines that can help humans, let's say, to free humans from activities that become too repetitive. The idea is also to reach a great potential that can be requested. I was saying, work can even be done by other machines; repetitive tasks can be handled by workers and by...

Machines, and in turn, when this happens, when this work rhythm is established, this can also allow humans to be freed from these repetitive tasks so they can dedicate themselves to something else. The practical case of this, which has only recently begun to be implemented because it was launched very recently, is Humana, a web application that launched protocol schemes very recently and which precisely allows this: that a job is demanded, in this case, it is working with data tagging, and that people who register in this application can earn this amount. Hmm, I have to clarify that it is a web application for now, meaning it is not yet available for mobile devices such as Android. It only works on the web for now; it is in a beta phase. I also clarify this because when we talk to people in the community channels on Telegram and on Disks, there are still some problems with registration because to register you need to have a wallet that has Wise and Novio Customer and that for now is from the partners that work with the Humana protocol.

For example, one of the wallets that works is... Coin List, we haven't only worked with Ellis for the Toque presales. The token is currently an RS-20 Toque, meaning it's on the Ethereum network. So, you could easily store the token in RS-20 wallets, but to work or register on the Human App, you'd have to register with a wallet from Human Protocol's partners. And since there are still some bugs and problems reported, we're providing the community with forms so they can inform us and help us improve the app's development.

The Toque on HD HM3 is listed on several exchanges, starting with Gate and FT, but not EFE TX. It's also listed with List for the token presale, and you can also find it on Vidmar Hub. There might be more news later. Many people ask us about this, but one of the interesting things about Human Protocol is that its purpose is precisely to use technology to support the workforce. I say this because...

well, people... We see this in the communities that get involved or invest in the HD token. They get involved, but simply as investing in just one more token. Sometimes they're not very interested in the technology behind it. And the truth is, when you look at the technology and its potential, you realize that the project isn't just about having a token.

The token is just one facet of everything the technology and the project entail. The token is there for the project to function. Yes, the idea isn't simply to buy and sell a token, but for the token to serve the ecosystem. In fact, the total token supply will be 1 billion tokens. Currently, the circulating supply is around 120 million tokens, but only 20 million are tradable and only 20 million are liquid.

The other 100 million are used for the ecosystem to function. I'm clarifying this because many people don't ask us how much they can buy or sell. This information is published for anyone interested; you can see it with Market Cap or on When. With Keiko to see how much the supply of tokens is, until I basically explained to them what Human Protocol is and how it works. With this token, I repeat, we are agnostic blogs, but the launch has been in the mind of Ter Yum.

The HMT token is a token on RS-20, meaning it works on the Therion network as well, but there have already been several agreements and some interactions with other projects, and this is where I want to tell you a little bit about what it's about so you have an idea. One of the integration agreements has been with Solana. One of the particularities of Solana is that it has a very interesting transaction speed; it can reach, I think, approximately 50,000 transactions per second with a relatively low cost. When Human Protocol saw, let's say, the potential of this technology, it thought that this could serve as a kind of pipeline, so to speak, to send data, and this could serve this global workforce that Human Protocol plans to have of hundreds of millions of users who can work simultaneously to solve problems. Solana has already developed a portal for what is called a service.

Intel CBS Beat is one of the first applications of the protocol, and the idea is that users can see a list of CBT jobs on Solana. For example, by clicking on the links in the interface, they can enter their Solana wallet address and start solving jobs. That's basically the idea behind the integration with Solana. Another quite interesting interaction is the one being done with Meta+. Those of you in the internal community will surely know Meta+ well; it's one of the best-known wallets used for external network tokens.

What we saw with this protocol is that while there are differences between different regular applications and different tabs, there's a problem we see almost everywhere: bots. So, while developers have created ways to limit bot activity, there's still nothing in the world of registered users to prevent apps from being invaded by malicious bots. Therefore, the solution was to create an app and Human Protocol for the Meta+ wallet. It's important to keep in mind... As you well know, Enter Yum is the most used blockchain for taps, and in this sense, Meta Plus is a very popular wallet within the Deterioration blockchain.

That's why this specific association of Human Protocol with Meta Plus was sought. An integration related to Meta Plus and Changeling was also sought because Human Protocol has created a secure way to verify human actions in the work processes. This allows Ternium contract developers to use Age CAPTCHA, as I mentioned before, and other Human Protocol services that can serve to validate the operations of smart contracts. Human Protocol soon extended Meta Plus's capabilities to allow Captcha users to be less than a specific point in Meta Plus that starts a page with Age CAPTCHA. Yes, it's an application built on Human Protocol, and you could say that Meta Plus functions as a human verification proxy for each contract that requires this type of protection.

In the case of Changeling, it comes in with oracles. Oracles are important because many times, while the Blogger platform allows you to store information and keep that information in a way that... Immutable, as they often serve as a bridge between, let's say, the real world and the virtual world, to confirm that what has been entered is truly accurate. Here, oracles provide the reliability of the communication between the blockchain information and what is outside the European blockchain. So, Human Protocol decided to use Chile as an oracle provider because it allows users to configure customized oracles, which are also often called external adapters.

Well, this is how the Chilean team achieves it, and what they do is verify the legitimacy of the authorization and send the information to the blockchain. And finally, I just wanted to mention that while Human Protocol is working on interactions with Meta, we are also working on our own wallet called Human Wallet, which can also be described as a gateway to the entire Human experience. This wallet is not yet officially available, but it is under development. In fact, the wallet was announced two or three months ago, and the idea is that Human Protocol users will be able to register in this wallet, complete tasks, and To charge, and also with a reputation system because this will also allow all workers to build reputation. Today, reputation systems are super important because this also allows companies that are hiring to see that workers have a suitable reputation because they have been performing other types of tasks.

This will also allow workers to focus on doing the work that corresponds to the wallet. It will have different functionalities designed to make the experience simple, as is the case with Genaro Tras wallets. As I was saying, one of the features is that we are looking for interconnection between chains in the wallet. So, this will be [Music] one of the main tools that the entire Human Protocol ecosystem will have, but it is still under development. And finally, to wrap things up because it's almost 5:30, we are betting heavily on generating online communities.

In fact, I am in charge of the triples part with the Spanish-speaking communities. For now, the channels available to the official Human Protocol are 21 Gente Noticias, the other is the group, the group being Global is only English-speaking, there are still people from many parts of the world, however, on the disc we have, it's not just our channels on discs, we have already enabled chat rooms in different languages ​​and there is the room in Spanish but there are also in Chinese, Russian, Portuguese, English and there are general chat rooms for specific topics such as the human wallet or how the work is done and we are also developing a whole program for ambassadors, that is, people who are really interested in the project, who want to help spread the word, and we are also starting to work on that through contact via discs [Music]. I hope I have been clear so q It's still open, I don't know if you have any questions. Thank you very much, Fernando. Actually, it was quite clear before moving on to my questions, which I have a few of, but I don't know if you have a question.

Manuel, I swear, could you explain a little more about the alliance with Ron? Well, I had something written down here; it basically has to do with the topic of micropayments. If you wait a second, and of course, because this was announced very recently, in fact, I don't know if it was on our blog yet, but I'd like to take this opportunity to invite you to talk about Ron and what its purpose is. It has a law. From what I know, the Boyacá block has high performance and low latency, and therefore low transfer costs.

This is one of the things that's being talked about a lot, and this isn't to speak ill of deterioration, but many people are starting to look at other types of blockchain projects because of the transaction costs. So, I think the idea of ​​the Human Protocol with Ron improves and provides this. No, the possibility of lower costs for micropayments, since here in the official statement it says, let's see, the Simon Foundation is soon reinventing the way humans and machines work together, and it says they indicated that the high performance of its network with its low latency, low transfer cost, rich features, and sustainability combines to offer a layer of trust that will enhance the Human Protocol's ability to incorporate hundreds of user emissions into a decentralized workgroup and dispense billions in rewards as payment. And if I'm trying to find something more detailed about it in particular, I don't want to say something without knowing; I prefer to say I don't know rather than put my foot in it. And if here, well, the CEO's comment is a mistake, basically, using micropayments for when there are millions of workers in this workforce.

Anyway, I commit to anyone who wants to ask me questions again looking for more information, so I can gladly provide more information later. Yes, of course. Well, Manuel is taking that into account. Surely another question from Manuel Conthe: can another wallet be registered as well? Regarding the coin list, well, that's one of the problems we 're having now.

I know it should work for them today because it was basically what those who participated in the presale were registered with. We're working to make it work, obviously. I know there have been some problems because once people register, there have been delays in the registration process. There was a possibility, or I think it was planned at the time, to also work with BackWorld, but I think that's not working right now. What we're looking at is perhaps creating a list later on of which wallets will work as partners with ConCoin.

I'd say that for now, with the Human Protocol, the most likely option is Polis because the people who participated in the presale were already registered with those who have the "boyfriend" (the code). I've included those; they absolutely have to be, it's a fundamental requirement to work with the protocol, which is the most common. But well, the truth is we hope the wallet list will be bigger. I insist on this: since we're still in beta, we're developing the application and we're still in a testing phase. There are some users, and that's why I'm a bit impatient because they have So, that's why we've also added a way for you to contact us through a form to let us know about any problems you're having with registration.

But for now, I can't tell you more than that those wallets are really good, but I don't expect it to be the absolute answer to Manuel's question. Surely it is. I actually wanted to know a little more about how this captcha works. I think Cepero explains it, but I wanted to know how companies can benefit, but also users. I don't think they're rewarded with the Gijón Protocol token, or not both parties, or just one?

Isn't it you? Who are you that serves as a reward for users who have done the work? Yes, it's like a reward is created. You say, "Okay, for such and such a job, there's this reward." The jobs, the workers complete the tasks.

In the case of captcha, the idea is to try to free internet traffic from bots, and what's basically done is data tagging and image tagging. You've probably seen this in many applications: " Okay, choose the image of the bicycle." Choose the image of... exactly. Now, what is the...

There's a particular captcha that depends on a specific internet company, the one that develops everything. It's assumed that with machine learning, they're constantly learning more about it. But miraculously, the idea behind Laxe Captcha, which works with a protocol, is to be more decentralized and less influenced by the corporate interests that other captchas use. So the idea is that these workers can perform data tagging, but again, this is just the beginning. The intention of Human Proto is that these job markets can later be applied to a multitude of other tasks, not just data tagging, data ethics, and the beginning for now.

For example, if a protocol could be used for a website or platform with a zero row or something like that, which is precisely a job market for people who could be used for that, it could be used for software development, it could be used for bot development, it could be used for human resources jobs, it could be used for other things. The truth is, the potential is enormous because, well, Human Proto will soon be the intermediary between millions of workers and the companies that, in turn, will also... Over time, we'll see that many of these jobs and many of these companies that need workers will be automated. Yes, on the one hand, Marc Contras will allow payments to be released, but on the other hand, automated work will allow many tasks to be done automatically, partly to meet company requirements, and partly to allow other workers to work independently. Now, what many people are wondering is, well, if everything is automated, the only thing that will really happen is that people will be left without jobs.

That's a kind of ludic fallacy, or something like that, when the truth is that as these jobs are completed or automated, new jobs will emerge. So, what Human Protocolice is also looking for is this emergence of new jobs. I tend to do a survey as well, because we were talking earlier about this boom in video games. It's not like video games are now creating new opportunities with the issue of scripts or currencies. Well, on the other hand, there are also With job pools emerging in certain countries, one could say that video games are, in a way, a job pool.

People play games, but they also perform tasks and earn money in real life. The same thing happens here, except perhaps instead of playing a video game, they'll have to perform other types of tasks. I'll leave that open to your imagination because the truth is, the type of work that can be done will depend on the requirements of each company. But yes, it can perfectly be done for video games. It could be done, for example, for content generation.

Coming from the journalistic field, it could be done for the generation, creation, and curation of documents, for example. It could be used in the health field, it could be used for engineering. The truth is, when you look at the potential, it's enormous because, on the one hand, processes will be automated, and there are things that humans used to do that machines will end up doing. But on the other hand, that will free up labor so that humans can dedicate themselves to new jobs. I really think the horizon is very broad, and I think the fact that we see, for example, now in the Philippines, there are entire families...

The fact that there are families who make a living playing video games makes me think that tomorrow, as I didn't know, entire families in the Philippines, and a good example with Konex Infinity, there's a whole system, in fact, there's a company and the game or something like that, or an initiative that even provides scholarships to players. There are families who live off this, the Philippines being like a benchmark, and this is expanding throughout Latin America as well. But anyway, I say, if there are families who live off playing video games and get paid well, tomorrow there will be workers who will perform other tasks that in turn will benefit companies and they will be able to get paid with cryptocurrencies. Yes, yes, yes, all of these are key, and I think that, as you say, since it's just starting, we have to see all the potential they have for later on, like all many crypto projects here. Let's see, there are two additional questions.

Well, I think you already answered this one. I mean, adding something, which is precisely bringing... you said, thank you and tell us about other applications of use. You can't comment on other applications of use of Human Protocol, but well, I don't know if you want to add anything. I think I've already said that it can be used in...

Quite a few sectors, or if in terms of sectors, or I think the overall potential is very large in terms of applications, I don't know if it refers to something that is being implemented or something that could be implemented later. Yes, definitely something that is implemented, let's see what they are already working with is Frost and with Intel's Teques, which is what I was telling you, that is also a tool that I think has to do more than anything with... well, I had it here, it's with Auto Mind, but it also has to do with automatic data labeling. You see, I mean, I had it written down here, exactly what is it called? Yes, I had it, I don't know if the presentation is still there, I took it out, it's not there yet.

You can see, I get lost with so many screens, the sale, Computer Vision Annotation Tour and Computational Vision Annotation Tool, would be something like that, it also has to do with image labeling. Yes, this tool is from Intel, and well, one of the integrations that Human Protocol is working with is this, for example, Condense in the CAPTCHA, it recognizes all the images in the image, that's clear, exactly, it has to do with With that, with the image tagging, now you see through the system. I think it's not exactly the same as reCAPTCHA, but a little different, but it does have to do with it, so we can get an idea. And well, here's another question: what's the team behind He-Man Protocol? Is it a company or a foundation?

Well, I'm going to show you here and share it so you can see it too. Why not? It's a foundation. They run Protocol, but we have a team. [Music] Hold on, I'm sorry, I 'm looking at the chat here.

Sorry. [Music] And I stopped sharing and putting the team here. As I was saying, we're divided in different countries because He-Man Protocol is a foundation. Here I'm going to show you the director of technology. It's Seri Zinc.

[Music] I'll share it with you. So you can also see the director of technology. Very recently, an interview came out with the Telegraph in English with Don, where he also explains how the project has been working. I didn't translate it into Spanish, but I would share it with you too, but it 's in English, in the English edition of the Telegraph. Well, William, the director of finance, is in...

London Long and Red, which is the head of operations, is known for its Alex Newman, who designed the protocol. There are several interviews with him on YouTube channels; he explains everything behind the protocol. While the Chief Technology Officer is talking about new projects, yesterday on the website you can see who the whole team is. The team at the top is quite large, and then we see a lot of other people working behind the scenes, divided into different countries. Anyone who wants to can see the project's white paper on the website.

There's also a live paper, which is a slightly shorter document outlining the fundamentals, and a white paper that deals with direct artificial intelligence. We're also translating the website into different languages. Currently, it's available in English, Russian, and Chinese, but we're already working on translations into Spanish and other languages. I'm involved in that, so I hope to have the translations ready soon. We have a roadmap that was published but was removed from the website because...

We're also finalizing some details of the roadmap, so we think we'll have it back online soon. But as you can see, we've put in a lot of work and we're heavily invested in community building to raise awareness of the project. For example, in the Spanish-speaking world, the project hadn't been widely known. It's not a new project; the launches have been in the last couple of months, but it's been in development for several years. It's not new at all.

It was more well-known in Asia and Eastern Europe, but now we're gaining more global exposure. Excellent, Fernando, this has been so interesting, and you have a pretty solid team. Well, I don't know if there's more. I have a question for Fernando. It's clear to me, as you say, I hadn't heard of the older project, but it's becoming more and more popular.

There are some videos on YouTube that explain the CAPTCHA, especially. That's another detail I'd like to mention, because I've been asked why... Don't get confused, there's another, relatively new project called Proof of Humanity. It's a project involving some Argentinians, including Santiago Siri and Federico, I believe. It's designed to test your digital identity, to see if you don't have it, and it's related to a basic income, I think.

I mean, this is something else entirely. While we do use what we call Proof of Humanity at some point, they are two different projects. Perhaps they could work together in the future, but they are two distinct projects. I'm clarifying this because some people, when I was only talking about the Hamas Protocol, thought I was talking about Proof of Humanity, but they are two different projects. And well, I knew a little about Proof of Humanity, so there wasn't that confusion.

So, no further questions, Fernando. Thank you for being here and for presenting this interesting topic. It's not the launch of the Hamas Protocol project, and well, I don't know if you have a website or social media links so we can share them and those who want to join and comment can also share them with their friends and family who want to know more about this project. I'm sharing this again from an infinite source, I think. This is the page, the Twitter channel which for now is in English, but we'll soon have one in Spanish too.

That's the Telegraph's news channel, Human Protocol News. We're also on disk, just recently launched. To access it, you'll have to see the invitation. Likewise, if anyone wants to ask me a question, you can also find me on Telegram as Fernando Osuna. It's the easiest way to find me, but well, I'm happy to answer any questions.

And also, if you ask Adolfo anything, contact me. I'm available for whatever you need, and I'm very grateful for this space you gave me, Adolfo, and very grateful for the attention from all the people in Lima and other countries. I don't know if there are any here too. Yes, yes, of course, Fernando Abad has been here once, I don't know yet. I only know the airport; he was just passing through a couple of hours ago.

Yes, yes, I remember he knew a lot, but no, no, I haven't had the chance. How was it raining, you say? Well, the sky was gray, and this is December, it's cloudy. The truth is, I really wanted to go to Peru because I have Acquaintances who live in Peru, this is what pandemics are like, everything is complicated. It's not clear that when it's all over, I'll surely make a trip here.

I'd really like to go, almost to try the ceviche, drink pisco, and try it in two different ways. Well, Fernando, again, I thank you for your time and this excellent presentation on the climate and protocol. I also thank the attendees for being here. Any questions, you can find me on Telegram regarding the protocol and more. I also have a question from Fernando; I'll contact him to pass it on to you, or you can look for Fernando directly on Telegram, and he'll surely be happy to answer it.

So that would be all. This presentation will be on YouTube, so if you want to review it at any time, look for it on the " Detener en Lima" YouTube profile. Okay, that would be all, and have a good weekend. Thank you very much. Bye-bye, queens.

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